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		<title>By: Chad@classroots.org</title>
		<link>http://synthesizingeducation.com/blog/2010/03/05/the-ravitch-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad@classroots.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Points gladly taken -

What are your top 5 steps a classroom teacher should take to educate the public about the current and desired states of education at their schools?

I&#039;d totally posit that we can control ourselves outside school, as well, and influence our classrooms at school, if not control them ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Points gladly taken -</p>
<p>What are your top 5 steps a classroom teacher should take to educate the public about the current and desired states of education at their schools?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d totally posit that we can control ourselves outside school, as well, and influence our classrooms at school, if not control them <img src='http://synthesizingeducation.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Eyler</title>
		<link>http://synthesizingeducation.com/blog/2010/03/05/the-ravitch-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Eyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad,

I agree with you, but I am not downplaying the importance of &quot;let&#039;s see if this works&quot; in teaching and learning. I think the &quot;let&#039;s see if this works&quot; with regards to policy, funding, standardized testing, and all these other movements that work towards reward, punishment, and compliance. The &quot;let&#039;s see if this works&quot; mentality in the classroom is exactly what we should be striving for. I apologize for being unclear about that.

Your other point is very well taken and one I think about quite often. As you know, I am vehemently opposed to cookie-cutter schooling and eveyrthing that goes with it. That includes Duncan&#039;s one-size-fits-all mentality with regards to funding, testing, and curriculum movements. Personally, I turn a deaf ear to a lot of the &quot;global education&quot; discussion when it comes to comparing countries namely because I think we are all preparing our kids for something different. It&#039;s a matter of context for individual countries and the workforce that they should be creating. The biggest problem, again, is that people don&#039;t understand this or want to understand it.

I don&#039;t think we can ignore what Ravitch and Duncan do and stick with the &quot;we can only control our classroom&quot; idea. Education is a nation-wide phenomenon and ideas need to be spread and discussed so that potential secretarys are more in tuned to reality rather than promoting the &quot;elitist and political affinity for numbers&quot; that you are referring to. 

Thanks for the discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad,</p>
<p>I agree with you, but I am not downplaying the importance of &#8220;let&#8217;s see if this works&#8221; in teaching and learning. I think the &#8220;let&#8217;s see if this works&#8221; with regards to policy, funding, standardized testing, and all these other movements that work towards reward, punishment, and compliance. The &#8220;let&#8217;s see if this works&#8221; mentality in the classroom is exactly what we should be striving for. I apologize for being unclear about that.</p>
<p>Your other point is very well taken and one I think about quite often. As you know, I am vehemently opposed to cookie-cutter schooling and eveyrthing that goes with it. That includes Duncan&#8217;s one-size-fits-all mentality with regards to funding, testing, and curriculum movements. Personally, I turn a deaf ear to a lot of the &#8220;global education&#8221; discussion when it comes to comparing countries namely because I think we are all preparing our kids for something different. It&#8217;s a matter of context for individual countries and the workforce that they should be creating. The biggest problem, again, is that people don&#8217;t understand this or want to understand it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we can ignore what Ravitch and Duncan do and stick with the &#8220;we can only control our classroom&#8221; idea. Education is a nation-wide phenomenon and ideas need to be spread and discussed so that potential secretarys are more in tuned to reality rather than promoting the &#8220;elitist and political affinity for numbers&#8221; that you are referring to. </p>
<p>Thanks for the discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: Chad@classroots.org</title>
		<link>http://synthesizingeducation.com/blog/2010/03/05/the-ravitch-situation/comment-page-1/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad@classroots.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t downplay the importance of &quot;let&#039;s see if this works&quot; in teaching and learning, Aaron. That&#039;s what helps us and our students come back every day to teach, learn, and connect.

The problem isn&#039;t experimentation in pursuit of solutions.  It&#039;s the politicians&#039; disregard for moving ahead with #edreform that leads to better teaching and learning in favor of lining their pockets with populist votes and vendor dollars.  It&#039;s Duncan&#039;s insistence that what Duncan wants to try is right for everybody. It&#039;s the paradoxical belief that competition will help schools that are already failing to compete.  It&#039;s the scape-goating of schools and teachers for complex national and global trends in the supply-and-demand of products, services, and types of worker (thanks for the assist, Dr. Bracey).  It&#039;s a shallow understanding of global competition based on comparing our test rates against countries that don&#039;t educate or test anywhere near the percentage of students we work with every year, using tests that stifle America&#039;s innovative spirit, our most valuable resource in this day and age (ditto, Doc). It&#039;s an elitist and political affinity for numbers, not people. 

It&#039;s in refining obsolescence.

It&#039;s a lack of will on the parts of educators and learners to refuse to follow policy that limits children&#039;s learning.  I&#039;m complicit in that.  Ravitch and Duncan aside, what are we to do?  Tag that question #notrehtorical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t downplay the importance of &#8220;let&#8217;s see if this works&#8221; in teaching and learning, Aaron. That&#8217;s what helps us and our students come back every day to teach, learn, and connect.</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t experimentation in pursuit of solutions.  It&#8217;s the politicians&#8217; disregard for moving ahead with #edreform that leads to better teaching and learning in favor of lining their pockets with populist votes and vendor dollars.  It&#8217;s Duncan&#8217;s insistence that what Duncan wants to try is right for everybody. It&#8217;s the paradoxical belief that competition will help schools that are already failing to compete.  It&#8217;s the scape-goating of schools and teachers for complex national and global trends in the supply-and-demand of products, services, and types of worker (thanks for the assist, Dr. Bracey).  It&#8217;s a shallow understanding of global competition based on comparing our test rates against countries that don&#8217;t educate or test anywhere near the percentage of students we work with every year, using tests that stifle America&#8217;s innovative spirit, our most valuable resource in this day and age (ditto, Doc). It&#8217;s an elitist and political affinity for numbers, not people. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s in refining obsolescence.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lack of will on the parts of educators and learners to refuse to follow policy that limits children&#8217;s learning.  I&#8217;m complicit in that.  Ravitch and Duncan aside, what are we to do?  Tag that question #notrehtorical.</p>
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